In considering this issue, the question that comes to my mind is whether the 2005 suit and 2007 suit has been fully ventilated by the previous court? It has been agreed by both parties that the 2005 suit was struck out and 2007 suit was withdrawn. Neither of the suits was fully ventilated by the court. Having read the Plaintiff Affidavit in Reply, although the Suit 2005 was strike out but the Plaintiffs did not give up, on the contrary within a month Plaintiffs have filed a lawsuit again in year 2007. Although the Plaintiffs have obtained a Mareva Injunction at that time, however, Plaintiffs’ solicitors’ attempt to serve the Writ Summon to the Defendant had failed because the Defendant was not at home at that time. But the Plaintiffs have decided to withdraw the Suit 2007 because Plaintiffs wanted to wait for the outcome of the police’s investigation and to investigate further on the Deceased’s estate as the Plaintiffs knew that the Defendant will be using the same tactic if the said Suit 2007 goes on. In coming to my decision, I would want to refer to the case of: The Pacific Bank Berhad v. Chan Peng Leong (1998) 2 MLJ 613,which was an appeal to the Court of Appeal, the Appellant’s initial action against the 46 Respondent whom was one of the guarantors to a facilities provided by the Appellant was struck out because no proper demand was done against the guarantor. Therefore, the Appellant has filed another suit against the Respondent after proper demand was made to him. Unfortunately, High Court has again struck out the suit on the ground of res judicata. The Court of Appeal has reversed the decision of the High Court by a majority decision and Gopal Sri Ram JCA (as he then was) in delivering the judgment of the court held that : “……….The propositions formulated in these cases by the Courts of Appeal of both provinces of Canada have not only the merit of logic in their support but also truly represent the law upon the subject. In my judgment, it is of the essence, in cases of this nature, when the plea of res judicata is taken, to identify with precision the issue that was decided in the earlier proceedings, which it is contended operates as a bar to relitigation because: ...to constitute a res judicata, the earlier judgment must, in terms of the Privy Council decision in Kok Hoong v Leong Cheong Kweng Mines Ltd [1964] MLJ 49, 'necessarily and with precision' determine the point in issue (per Chang Min Tat FJ in Tong Lee Hwa & Anor v Lee Yoke San 119791 1 MLJ 24 (retd). affirmed on appeal to the Privy Council in [1981] 1 MLJ 54). In the present instance, the point in issue in the first action that was determined necessarily and with precision was that the demand upon which that action was based was invalid. There was, in other words, no demand. The first action had therefore been commenced prematurely. The bank was accordingly at liberty to issue a proper demand and to institute proceedings to enforce the guarantee 47 based upon that demand. In my judgment, neither res judicata, nor issue estoppel, nor cause of action estoppel operated to bar the second action. ” Y.A Fairuz (as he then was) also have agreed to the decision of Y. A Gopal Sri Ram has further elaborated : “…..Mengenai pemakaian doktrin res judicata, saya berpegang kepada kes yang sama yang dirujuk oleh Gopal Sri Ram HMR dalam penghakimannya — iaitu kes Tong Lee Hwa & Anor v Lee Yoke San [19791 1 MLJ 24. Kes ini dan kes Ruben v Royal Bank of Canada (1980) 110 DLR 501 (yang juga dirujuk oleh Gopal Sri Ram HMR dalam penghakimannya) menyebabkan saya bersetuju dengan Gopal Sri Ram HMR bahawa doktrin res judicata tidak boleh menghalang tindakan perayu dalam Guaman Sivil No 22- 80-94. Seperkara lagi yang dibangkitkan oleh perayu dalam affidavit jawapannya di dalam prosiding permohonan membatalkan penyata tuntutan dalam GS 22-80-94 itu ialah bahawa isu-isu substantial yang dikemukakan oleh perayu tidak pernah dibicarakan oleh Mahkamah Tinggi dalam GS 23-209-88. Perayu menegaskan bahawa tindakan itu (GS 23-209-88) telah dibatalkan hanya atas alasan bantahan prosedur. Dalam hal ini, saya teringat apa yang dikatakan oleh Gopal Sri Ram HMR semasa beliau member penghakiman Mahkamah Persekutuan dalam kes Boustead Trading (1985) Sdn Bhd v Arab-Malaysian Merchant Bank Bhd [1995] 13 MLJ 331 (foild} di ms 342, iaitu: ... After all, courts exist to do justice according to the law as applied to the substantial merits of a particular case……………. ” 48 In another case, the Federal Court in the case of : Syarikat Kemajuan Timbermine Sdn. Bhd. v. Kerajaan Negeri Kelantan Darul Naim (2015) 3 MLJ 609 (FC), Azhar Mohamed FCJ delivering the judgment of the court : “………[29] We agree with the above findings of the Court of Appeal. To which we will add that the decision of the registrar in the interlocutory application is not finally determinative of the limitation issue. It lacked the essential element of finality. The hearing and arguments during the interlocutory application stage were not exhaustive for the final determination of the limitation issue. It is open to the High Court at the full trial to review the limitation issue based on . the evidence, both oral and documentary, presented by the parties (see Selvaraju a/l Ponniah lwn Suruhanjaya Perkhidmatan Awam, Malaysia dan satu lagi [2006] 2 MLJ 585). The effect of the registrar's dismissal of the application for striking out was simply that at the interlocutory stage, based onthe limited material then available, the defendant was not entitled to have the plaintiffs pleadings struck out on the ground of limitation (see Cheng Hang Guan & Ors v Perumahan Farlim (Penang) Sdn Bhd &Ors [1988] 3 MLJ 90 and Florence Bailes v Dr Ng Jit Leong [1983] 2 MLJ 175). What is more, as we have said earlier, the application for striking out was dismissed by the registrar without providing any reasons. It is therefore not possible to ascertain with any exactness the point decided by the registrar. That is why res judicata cannot apply because to constitute a res judicata, the earlier judgment must necessarily and with precision determine the point in issue (see The Pacific Bank Bhd v Chan Peng Leong [1998] 2 MLJ 613). We agree with the submission of learned counsel for the defendant that in the circumstances of the present case the plea of 49 res judicata should not prevail. We therefore hold that the defendant is not precluded from raising the defence of limitation…………….” Finally, in the case of : Farlim Properties Sdn. Bhd. v. Goh Keat Poh & Ors and other appeal (2003) 4 MLJ 654 (CA), Mohd Noor Ahmad JCA (as he then was) delivering the judgment of the court : “……….When the plea of res judicata is raised, it is necessary to identity with precision the issue that was decided in the earlier proceedings. In Tong Lee Hwa & Anor v Lee Yoke San [1979] 11 MLJ 24. Chang Min Tat FC held that to constitute a res judicata, the earlier judgment must, in terms of the Privy Council decision in Kok Hoong v Leong Cheong Kweng Mines Ltd [1964] MLJ 49, 'necessarily and with precision' determine the point in issue. The decision was affirmed by the Privy Council in [1981 j 1 MLJ 54. ... It is trite law that for res judicata to apply the proceedings must have resulted in a final judgment or decree, that is to say, the one which adjudges the ultimate rights of the parties or finally puts the case out of court………..’’ To conclude on this issue, to my mind since the central crux of the issue concerning the Estate has not been finalized in any court, the principle of Res Judicata has no application in this matter.