An amended List of Debts (Creditor List No. 2) (introduced in Encl 13, Exhibit NHH-4), showing ASM’s total debts to be RM596,408,712.66 (also Encl 2, para 36). This new List now involves: a. recognising the increase of the debt to Abu Sahid from RM137,399,876.56 to RM147,113,422.96, see Encl 111, para 7; Encl 13, Exhibit NHH-4 pdf pp 234-236; b. increasing the debt to Abu Sahid by further recognising additional “interest on advances” by way of compound interest at 18% from 2014 to 2018 totalling RM237,877,235.18 (introduced in Encl 13, Ex. NHH-4). This increase is highly questionable. In ASM’s Annual Audited Financial Statements (“AFS”) for 2015 to 2018, the amounts due to directors were stated to be interest free (see Encl 111, para 5) and related companies only carried interest at 2% (Encl 111, para 4). No explanation was given for the alleged change in interest on these related party loans in particular, to Abu Sahid, (see Encl 13, para 19); c. decreasing the debt owed to Econpile from RM86,351,038.12 to RM64,900,000.00 (see Encl 111 at para 3). In oral submissions, Econpile claimed that this reduction was designed to eliminate Econpile’s veto right in the class of unrelated creditors. This submission was unsubstantiated and was made en passant. I thus gave it little or no weight.