There is nothing unusual in a capital sentence being mandatory and indeed its efficacy as a deterrent may to some extent be diminished if it is not.” [125] In the Australian case of Palling v Corfield [1970] 123 CLR 52, the brief facts are these: Under section 49(a) of the National Service Act 1951 (Cth), a person who was convicted of the offence of failing to respond to a national service notice was liable to a fine ranging from $40 to $200 and, at the request of the prosecutor, an additional mandatory sentence of seven days imprisonment if the defendant continued to refuse to comply with the requirements of national service. The High Court was unanimous in rejecting an argument that the mandatory imposition of the additional penalty was a contravention of the separation of powers. The Court held that the subsection did not confer part of the judicial power of the Commonwealth on the prosecution or constitute an interference with judicial functions or attempt to delegate legislative power to the prosecution. Legislative power by way of prescribing penalty was likened to the legislative power in determining the elements of the offence. Barwick CJ (at 58) stated: “It is beyond question that the Parliament can prescribe such penalty as it thinks fit for the offences which it creates. It may make the penalty absolute in the sense that there is but one penalty which the court is empowered to impose and, in my opinion, it may lay an unqualified duty on the court to impose that penalty. The exercise of the judicial function is the act of imposing the penalty consequent upon conviction of the offence which is essentially a judicial act. If the statute nominates the penalty and imposes on the court a duty to impose it, no judicial power or function is invaded: nor, in my opinion, is there any judicial power or discretion not to carry out the terms of the statute. Ordinarily the court with the duty of imposing punishment has a discretion as to the extent of the punishment to be imposed; and sometimes a discretion whether any punishment at all should be imposed. It is both unusual and in general, in my opinion, undesirable that the court should not have a discretion in the imposition of penalties and sentences, for circumstances alter cases and it is a traditional function of a court of justice to endeavour to make the punishment appropriate to the circumstances as well as to the nature of the crime. But whether or not such a discretion shall be given to the court in relation to a statutory offence is for the decision of the Parliament.” [126] The Chief Justice concluded his remarks on this point by stating, “It is not ... a breach of the Constitution not to confide any discretion to the court as to the penalty imposed.” The Chief Justice also rejected an argument that it was the prosecutor who effectively imposed the sentence. [127] Another similar situation is the case of mandatory order. In State (O’Rourke) v Kelly [1983] I.R 38, the Irish Supreme Court examined section 62(3) of the Housing Act 1966, on the basis that it was an unconstitutional invasion of the judicial power. Section 62 established that a housing authority, Dublin Corporation in this case, may recover an abode provided by it, with subsection (3) continuing to state that that “ … the justice shall, in such case he is satisfied that the demand mentioned in the said subsection (1) has been duly made, issue the warrant.” Thus, it was argued that the judge had been deprived of his discretion over the matter and accordingly was an intrusion by the legislature into the affairs of the Judiciary. The Supreme Court rejected this contention as they believed it was clear that section 62(3) “did not attempt to convert the District Court judge into a mere rubber stamp”. O’Higgins C.J. delivered the judgment of the court: “It will be seen that it is only when the provisions of sub-s. 1 of s. 62 have been complied with and the demand duly made to the satisfaction of the District Justice that he must issue the warrant. In other words, it is only following the establishment of specified matters that the sub-section operates. This is no different to many of the statutory provisions which, on proof of certain matters, make it mandatory on a court to make a specified order. Such legislative provisions are within the competence of the Oireachtas.” [128] It would seem to this Court, by parity of reasoning that Parliament is competent to vest the function of the ascertainment Islamic law in respect of Islamic banking in the SAC and such ascertainment is binding on the court. It was likened to the legislative power in prescribing the minimum sentence to be imposed by the court on a convicted person(s). The function of the SAC is merely to ascertain the Islamic law for Islamic banking, and upon such ascertainment, it is for the court to apply the ascertained Islamic law for banking to the facts of the case. The ascertainment of Islamic Law for banking does not settle the dispute between the parties before the Court. The SAC did not determine or pronounce authoritative decision as to the rights and/or liabilities of the parties before court. It did not convert the High Court into a mere rubber stamp. [129] The process of ascertaining Islamic law for Islamic banking was described by the learned judge in Tan Sri Abdul Khalid bin Ibrahim v Bank Islam Malaysia Bhd [2012] 7 MLJ 597 as follows (at para 23): “Looking at the purpose of s 56 of the Act 707, it is clear that SAC is required to ascertain the applicable Islamic law to the above Shariah issues. Upon ascertainment of the Islamic law, the court would then apply it to the facts of the present case. This approach is in consonance with the decision in Bank Islam Malaysia Bhd v Lim Kok Hoe & Anor [2009] 6 MLJ 839, where Raus Sharif JCA (as he then was) stated: In this respect, it is our view that judges in civil courts should not take upon themselves to declare whether a matter is in accordance to the Religion of Islam or otherwise …” [130] Earlier, in Mohd Alias Bin Ibrahim v RHB Bank Bhd, (supra), the same judge had carefully delineated the function discharged by the SAC as opposed to the function of the civil court. The critical feature that decides that the SAC does not perform a judicial function it that it does not give a final decision in the dispute between the parties. The learned judge observed as follows (at para 102): “The SAC cannot be said to perform a judicial or quasi-judicial function. The process of ascertainment by the SAC has no attributes of a judicial decision. The necessary attribute of the judicial decision is that it can give a final judgment between two parties which carries legal sanction by its own force. It appears to the court that before a person or persons or a body or bodies can be said to exercise judicial powers, he or it must be held that they derive their powers from the state and are exercising the judicial power of the state. An attempt was made to define the words ‘judicial’ and ‘quasi-judicial’ in the case of Cooper v Wilson and others [1937] 2 KB 309. The relevant quotation reads – “A true judicial decision presupposes an existing dispute between two or more parties, and then involves four requisites: (1) the presentation (not necessarily orally) of their case by the parties to the dispute; … (4) a decision which disposes of the whole matter by a finding upon the facts in dispute and application of the law of the land to the facts so found, including where required a ruling upon any disputed question of law.” (Emphasis added) [131] It is axiomatic that the SAC does not finally dispose of the dispute between the parties. It does not engage in the judicial process of determining the rights of the parties. This is made clear in the Manual issued by Bank Negara called the Manual for References to Shariah Advisory Council by the Civil Court and Arbitrator (see copy exhibited as ‘MZKN-2’ of the BNM’s Affidavit dated 23 April 2018). In Part B, Para.7 of the Manual it is clearly stated as follows: “[In] answering the questions referred by the court or arbitrator, the Shariah Advisory Council is aware that its role is merely to ascertain the “hukum Syarak” (Islamic law) in relation to the issues where reference is made. The Shariah Advisory Council does not have any jurisdiction to make any finding of facts or to apply a particular “hukum” (principle) to the facts of the case or to make a decision. Whether in relation to an issue or for the case since such jurisdiction is vested with the court and arbitrator.” [132] It is relevant to note that in the present case in giving its ruling under section 57, the SAC had scrupulously adhered to this principle. In the opening paragraph of the ruling (see p.300 of AR Vol.2), the SAC stated as follows: “In answering to the question posed by the Court, the SAC took note that the SAC’s duty is merely to analyse the Syariah’s issues that are contained in each question posed and to sate the Hukum Syarak ruling relating to the question. The SAC does not have jurisdiction to make a finding of facts or to apply the ruling to the facts of the case and to decide whether relating to an issue or for the case because this jurisdiction is vested with the Court.” [133] It is clear acknowledgement by the SAC that it does not have the jurisdiction to enter into the dispute between the parties by itself “applying the ruling to the facts of the case” and coming to a final decision on the dispute. Further, we agree with the submission of learned counsel for the respondent that the duty to ascertain of Islamic law is conferred on the legislature and the SAC is the legislature’s machinery to assist in resolving disputes in Islamic banking. It does not exercise judicial power at all. [134] In The Queen v. Trade Practices Tribunal; Ex parte Tasmanian Breweris Pty. Ltd. [1970] 123 CLR 361, cited by learned counsel for the respondent in her argument, it was observed as follows (see page p377): “Thus the work of the Tribunal is work which would be appropriate for the legislature itself to do if it had the time to consider individual cases. It would be obviously impracticable for the Parliament to apply its own ideas as to what is contrary to the public interest, either by passing a special Act for every individual case or by laying down a definition which in every case would be sure to produce a result satisfactory to it. There is probably no practicable alternative to setting up an authority which with some but incomplete guidance from the legislature will apply its own notions concerning the public interest. This course the Trade Practices Act adopts, contenting itself with prescribing the qualifications for membership of the Tribunal, giving a limited measure of guidance, and then relying upon the Executive's choice of members to ensure, so far as assurance is possible, that the notions applied will be such as the Parliament would approve. … None of the powers of the Tribunal, then, involves any adjudication upon a claim of right.” [135] Similar observations were made in The Federal Commissioner of Taxation v Munro and British Imperial Oil Co. Ltd v Federal Commissioner of Taxation (supra), where it was held at pages 178-179: “Other matters may be subject to no a priori exclusive delimitation, but may be capable of assignment by Parliament in its discretion to more than one branch of government. Rules of evidence, the determination of the validity of parliamentary elections, or claims to register trademarks would be instances of this class. The latter class is capable of being viewed in different aspects, that is, as incidental to legislation, or to administration, or to judicial action, according to circumstances. Deny that proposition, and you seriously affect the recognized working of representative government. Admit it, and the provision now under consideration is fully sustained. (Emphasis ours). [136] It is clear, therefore, that it is open to the legislature to establish the SAC as part of regulatory statute and to vest it with power to ascertain Islamic law for the purpose of banking. This point has been very ably considered by my learned brother Justice Azahar Mohamed, FCJ in his supporting judgment. [137] Learned counsel for the respondent further submitted that disputes in Islamic financial and banking matters are within the jurisdiction of the civil courts, notwithstanding that Shariah law are involved. This is due to the fact that Islamic banking and financial disputes do not and cannot fall within the jurisdiction of Shariah Courts as finance and financial institutions are matters within the List I (Federal List) and outside of the List II (State List). Furthermore, financial institutions (and some of their customers) do not profess the religion of Islam. [138] According to learned counsel for the respondent, we have a scenario where matters lie within the jurisdiction of civil courts, but the civil courts are not equipped to make findings on Islamic law. [139] With the greatest respect and deference to the learned judges of the civil courts, we are of the humble opinion that the civil courts are not sufficiently equipped to make findings on Islamic law. The same sentiments were expressed in the following cases: a) In Bank Islam Malaysia v Lim Kok Hoe & Anor and other appeals [2009] 6 MLJ 839, the Court of Appeal held at pp. 853-854: “In this respect, it is our view that judges in civil court should not take upon themselves to declare whether a matter is in accordance to the religion of Islam or otherwise. As rightly pointed out by Suriyadi J (as he then was) in Arab-Malaysian Merchant Bank Bhd v Silver Concept Sdn Bhd [2005] 5 MLJ 210 that in the civil court ‘not every presiding judge is a Muslim, and even if so, may not be sufficiently equipped to deal with matters, which ulama’ take years to comprehend’. Thus, whether the bank business is in accordance with the religion of Islam, it needs consideration by eminent jurists who are properly qualified in the field of Islamic jurisprudence.” (Emphasis added). b) In Tan Sri Abdul Khalid bin Ibrahim (supra) the High Court held at pp. 614-615: “Before I conclude, perhaps it would be useful for me to add a few words as to why civil courts may not be sufficiently equipped to deal with the issue whether a transaction under Islamic banking is in accordance to the religion of Islam or otherwise. Civil courts are not conversant with the rubrics of Fiqh Al-Muamalat which is a highly complex yet under-developed area of Islamic jurisprudence. In applying Islamic law to determine the parties right under a contract, a civil judge had to conduct an extensive inquiry into Islamic law and make an independent determination of Shariah principles.” (Emphasis added). [140] In order to appreciate whether a civil judge is competent to decide on Shariah issues relating to Islamic banking and finance, perhaps an understanding of the sources of Shariah is very important. [141] In this connection, we may advert to an article entitled: “A Study on the Shariah decision making Processes adopted by the Shariah Committee in Malaysian Islamic Financial Institutions”, co-authored by Mohamad Asmadi Abdullah, Rusni Hasssan, Muhammad Naim Omar, Mohammed Deen Mohd Napiah, Ahmad Azam Othman, Mohammed Ariffin and Adnan Yusuf, (Australian Journal of Basic and Applied Sciences, 8(13) August 2014, pp. 670-675). The relevant passages in this regard, being of considerable significance to our analysis, are extracted in full as hereunder: “Shariah or Islamic law has been defined as the sum total of Islamic teaching and system, which was revealed to Prophet Muhammad s.a.w recorded in the Qur’an as well as deducible from the Prophet’s divinely guided lifestyle called the sunnah (Akram, 2008). The Qur’an and the sunnah contain rules and regulations revealed by Allah s.w.t and these two are known as the primary sources of Islamic Law. Al-Quran, Sunnah and Ijma’ are transmitted proofs and their authority and binding force are independent of any rational justification (Kamali, 2004). Qiyas is another primary source but it is a rational proof because its validity is founded on an established hukm of the Qur’an, Sunnah or Ijma’ (Akram, 2006). The commonality of the illah in qiyas is matter of opinion and ijtihad (Kamali, 2004). The authority of these four sources is based on the Qur’anic verse which addresses the command to the Muslims to refer to these sources to find solutions for disputes or issues. Allah SWT says: “O you who believe! Obey Allah SWT and obey the Prophet (Muhammad), and those charged with authority among you. And if you differ over anything among yourselves, refer it to Allah SWT (Al-Quran) and the Prophet (Al-Sunnah).” (Surah al-Nisa’: 59). It is also based on the Allah SWT also says: “And whatever the Prophet has given you – take it; and what He has forbidden you (from doing) – refrain from it.” (Surah al-Hasyr: 7)(IBFIM, Internet). The development of the Shariah also relies on other sources which are termed as the secondary sources. These sources are formulated by the scholars based on their deep understanding of the primary sources. These sources are needed because there are a lot of new cases which did not occur during the time of the Prophet s.a.w. and hence, new ijtihad is necessary in order to find the ruling. These sources are like qiyas, maslahah, istihsan, istishab, saddzari’ah, ‘urf, maqasidshar’iyyah, siyasahshar’iyyah and many more. The basis for these secondary sources is a hadith of the Prophet s.a.w when he appointed Muaz as a judge in Yemen. The Prophet s.a.w asked Muaz that what he would do to solve disputes while in Yemen. The Prophet s.a.w said: “How will you judge when the occasion of deciding a case arises?” He replied; I shall judge in accordance with Allah’s Book. The Prophet PBUH then asked him, “What will you do if you do not find guidance in Allah’s Book? He replied: I will act in accordance with the Sunnah of the Prophet s.a.w The Prophet PBUH asked him again, “What will you do if you do not find guidance in the Sunnah of the Prophet s.a.w? He replied: I shall do my best to form an opinion and spare no pains. The Prophet s.a.w then patted him on the breast and said: “Praise be to Allah s.w.t who helped the Messenger of Allah s.w.t to find a thing which pleases the Prophet s.a.w. (Nyazee, 2002). Ijtihad means striving to the utmost to discover the law from the texts through all possible means of valid interpretation (Nyazee, 2002). Its validity is derived from divine revelation and hence is always in harmony with the Qur’an and the Sunnah (Kamali, 1991). The scholar who performs ijtihad must possess the appropriate qualification such as the knowledge of the sources of the Shariah, knowledge of Arabic and familiarity with the prevailing customs of society, upright character, as well as the ability to formulate independent opinion and judgment (Kamali, 2006). As far as the modern transaction is concerned, the ijtihad is significant in order to extend the ruling to new cases that are not covered clearly by the Qur’an and the Sunnah. Therefore the function of the mujtahid to derive the new ruling for the new case from the general principles available in the Qur’an and the Sunnah. The mujtahid is therefore must open their minds to the current development and realities and to interpret the whole text in its totality by looking at the objectives of the Shariah in order to materialise its ultimate objectives in any particular issue. (Islamic Capital Market, 2009).” (See also Fathullah Al Haq Muhamad Asni & Jasni Sulong, “The Model of Instinbat by the Shariah Advisory Council of Central Bank Malaysia”. (International Journal of Academic Research in Business and Social Science, Vol. 8, No. 1 January 2018). [142] We agree with the contention of learned counsel for the 1st intervener that the SAC has been harmonising the proliferation of Shariah opinions in the industry since its inception. It has already accustomed to the practical considerations at hand and the need for certainty in the industry on Islamic banking principles. Therefore, the binding nature of the ruling of the SAC is justified as section 56 of the 2009 Act was enacted on the reason of conserving and protecting the public interest. [143] It is pertinent to note that the rulings of the SAC are made given through the exercise of collective ijtihad. The SAC comprises prominent scholars and Islamic finance experts, who are qualified individuals with vast experience and knowledge in various fields, especially in finance and Islamic law, to ensure robust and comprehensive deliberation before the issuance of the rulings. [144] The appointment of the members of the SAC is provided for in section 53 of the 2009 Act. Section 53(1) states that the Yang di-Pertuan Agong, may on the advice of the minister after consultation with the Bank, appoint from among persons who are qualified in Shariah or who have knowledge or experience in the Shariah and in banking, finance, law or such other related disciplines as members of the SAC. Judges of Civil and Shariah Courts can also be appointed as members of the SAC. However, if a judge is to be appointed as an SAC member, the appointment must be done in accordance with section 53(2) which says that: “If a judge of the High Court, the Court of Appeal or the Federal Court, or a judge of the Shariah Appeal Court of any State or Federal Territory, is to be appointed under subsection (1), such appointment shall not be made except – (a) in the case of a judge of the High Court, the Court of Appeal or the Federal Court, after consultation by the Bank with the Chief Justice; and (b) in the case of a judge of the Shariah Appeal Court of any State or Federal Territory, after consultation by the Bank with the Chief Shariah Judge of the respective State or Federal Territory, as the case may be.” Semenyih Jaya Case [145] We now turn to the Semenyih Jaya Case. In the course of his argument, learned counsel for the applicant emphatically relied on the decision of Semenyih Jaya Case in support of his contention that that the Impugned Provisions are unconstitutional and liable to be struck off. We agree with the submissions of the learned counsel for the respondent and the interveners that Semenyih Jaya Case does not support the position being advanced by the applicant that the conferment of the power to ascertain the Islamic law for Islamic banking on the SAC is an incursion into the judicial power of the Federation. The factual matrix in Semenyih Jaya Case is poles apart from the factual matrix of the case under our consideration. In Semenyih Jaya Case, the impugned section 40D of the Land Acquisition Act 1960 provided for the final decision on compensation for compulsory acquisition to be determined not by the judge but by the two assessors sitting with him in the High Court. [146] In short, the offending part of section 40D was that it empowers the assessors, and not the judge to determine conclusively, and therefore finally, the very issue before the High Court, namely, the amount of compensation to be awarded to the landowner. [147] The test is whether there has been a ‘take-over of the judicial power of the court’ by non-judicial personages. Zainun Ali FCJ explained why section 40D was an encroachment of the judicial power at para 95):- “(I)n our view, Section 40D of the Act has a wider reach. The implications of the language of s 40D(1) and (2) of the Act is that the assessors in effect take over the judicial power of the court enshrined under art 121(1) of the Federal Constitution in deciding on a reasonable amount of compensation in land reference matters. The judicial power to award compensation has been whittled away from the High Court Judge to the assessors in breach of art 121 of the Federal Constitution.” [148] It is clear, therefore, the test is whether the very matter placed before the court of law as the dispute between the parties for final decision has been usurped by persons other than judges. In a land reference case under the Land Acquisition Act 1960, the dispute is over the amount of compensation. Section 40D permits the assessors to decide finally on this very issue. The Federal Court observed further at para 51-52: “It would appear that he (the judge) sits by the side-line and dutifully anoints the assessors’ decision. Section 40D of the Act therefore effectively usurps the power of the court in allowing persons other than the judge to decide on the reference before it. This power to decide a matter which is brought before the court is known as judicial power and herein lies the rub.” [149] Unlike the assessors in the Land Reference Proceedings, the SAC in ascertaining the Islamic law for Islamic banking, does not conclusively and finally determine the right between the parties. The contest between parties remain with the adjudicating judge. Reference Question 1(c) [150] This reference question was not vigorously pursued by learned counsel for the applicant. Be that as it may, for the sake of completeness, we will discuss the issues raised by the applicant. The nub of the learned counsel for the applicant’s submission on this issue is that the impugned provisions deprived a litigant substantive process. The short answer is this. Article 8 of the FC deals with equality before the law and equal protection of the law and that equality means that people who are in the like circumstances should be treated equally. Numerous cases in the apex court confirm that Article 8 does not apply to all persons in any circumstances but rather it applies to person under like circumstances. [151] In order to determine whether a law is discriminatory under Article 8, “the validity of a law relating to equals can therefore only be properly tested if it applies alike to all persons in the same group”. (See Danaharta Urus Sdn Bhd v Kekatong Sdn Bhd [2004] 2 MLJ 257). [152] In the case of a reference made pursuant to section 56(1)(b) of the 2009 Act, parties involved are allowed to provide their own Shariah expert’s views on the Shariah question(s). In fact, in these present applications, the applicant provided to SAC its own Shariah expert’s view on the issue. Reference Question 2(a) Expert Evidence [153] Learned counsel for the applicant finally contended that if the impugned provisions are constitutional, the party should be entitled to lead expert evidence and for the court to consider expert evidence on question concerning Islamic law for Islamic financial business. [154] We are not persuaded with the submission. The civil courts are not in a position to appreciate and determine the divergences of opinions among the experts and to decide based on Shariah principles. The proposition has been expounded in Mohd Alias (supra) where the learned judge observed that: “122. There is neither rhyme nor reason for the court to reject the function of the SAC in ascertaining which Islamic law to be applied by the civil courts in deciding a matter. Should this function be ignored, it would open the floodgate for lawyers and cause a tsunami of applications to call any expert at their own interest and benefit, not only from Malaysia but also other countries in the world who might not be familiar to our legal system, administration of Islamic law and local conditions just to challenge the Islamic banking transaction in this country.” [155] The same sentiment has been repeated by the learned judge in the case of Tan Sri Abdul Khalid Ibrahim v Bank Islam Malaysia Bhd [2012] 7 MLJ 597: “[55] In my considered opinion, it is advisable and practical that the question as to whether Islamic banking business is in accordance with the religion of Islam or otherwise be decided by eminent jurists properly qualified in Islamic jurisprudence and not by judges of the civil courts. This is to avoid embarrassment to Islamic banking cases as a result of incoherent and anomalous legal judgments. The applicable law to Islamic banking has to be known with certainty. Otherwise, lawyers, bankers and their customers are left to wonder which is in fact the correct law. [56] Even if expert evidence is allowed to be given in court to explain or clarify any point of law relating to Islamic banking, civil judges would be in a difficult situation to decide because the divergence of opinions among Islamic jurists and scholars to which the opposing experts might have and which they will urge the court to adopt may be so complex to enable civil judges to make an independent determination of Shariah principles.” [156] Further, if the parties are allowed to lead expert evidence, it would fall upon the civil courts to ascertain what the applicable Islamic law for the Islamic banking is, and to proceed to apply the ascertained law to the facts of the case. In ascertaining the law, competing parties to the dispute will submit before the courts their own views of what is the law. In such circumstances, the practical questions need to be addressed are –