A certificate of Conversion to Islam shall be conclusive proof of the facts stated therein. [32] I find no merit in this argument for this reason. It may well be that on the date of issuance of the conversion card, the 1989 Enactment had come into force. Therefore the fact of conversion that is stated in the conversion card may constitute proof that the respondent underwent a formal conversion two years earlier. However, it cannot logically be conclusive proof of a valid conversion if the conversion was patently unlawful in the first place on the date it was performed because of breach of the prevailing written law which is the 1952 Enactment. [33] But before I conclude the discussion on the validity of the respondent’s conversion under the 1952 Enactment, lest it be said that the civil court has no jurisdiction to interpret provisions of the said law, I shall quote below the following passage from the judgment of Zainun Ali FCJ in the Indira Gandhi case that said otherwise: [95] Clause (1A) also does not remove the jurisdiction of civil courts in the interpretation of legislation. This is the case even in relation to legislation enacted for the administration of Muslim law, as was held in Dalip Kaur v Pegawai Polis Daerah, Balai Polis Daerah, Bukit Mertajam & Anor [1992] 1 MLJ 1: The new cl 1A of Art 121 of the Constitution effective from 10 June 1988 has taken away the jurisdiction of the civil courts in respect of matters within the jurisdiction of the Syariah Courts. But that clause does not take away the jurisdiction of the civil court to interpret any written laws of the states enacted for the administration of muslim law … If there are clear provisions in the State Enactment the task of the civil court is made easier when it is asked to make a declaration relating to the status of a person whether such person is or is not a Muslim under the Enactment. (Emphasis added.) Consent of the father [34] In the light of the Indira Gandhi case, the adjudication of the validity of conversion of religion without the consent of the non-converting parent, is not a matter of faith or apostasy but a matter of interpretation of a constitutional provision. Therefore, the civil court is clearly seized with jurisdiction to adjudicate the matter. [35] In the instant case, the respondent’s mother’s affidavit averring she did not obtain the consent of her then husband was not disputed. As I said earlier, this point was not deliberated upon by the learned High Court Judge as His Lordship found that the conversion was unlawful from the outset. I shall consider this issue as counsel for the parties raised it in this appeal. In the Indira Gandhi case, notwithstanding the provision in the Administration of the Religion of Islam (Perak) Enactment 2004 for the conversion of underage children unilaterally by one parent, the Federal Court held that the consent of both parents is required under Article 12(4) of the Federal Constitution. In the instant case, there is no provision in the 1952 Enactment that authorises the conversion of a minor at the material time without the consent of the non-converting parent. It is interesting to note that Rule 4(1) of the Administration of Islamic Law (Conversion of Minors) Rules 1991 which was made under the successor law, i.e. the 1989 Enactment, required the written consent of the father of the minor for the conversion. Thus, even if the 1989 Enactment which came into force later is applicable, the conversion would be invalid as it is undisputed that the consent of the father was never obtained. Anyway, it is axiomatic that even if there was a provision in the State Law that allowed for unilateral or automatic conversion of minors, it cannot override the Supreme Law of the land which is the Federal Constitution which requires the consent of both parents before a minor can be converted. Therefore, on this ground as well, the respondent’s conversion on 17.5.1991 is invalid. I have also considered the argument that unlike in the Indira Gandhi case, in the instant case, the respondent’s father did not challenge the conversion by way of judicial review before he passed away. Notwithstanding that fact, as it is undisputed that the consent of the father was not obtained, as a matter of law, the conversion cannot be lawful as it breached a provision of the Federal Constitution. Moreover, the point was taken up by the respondent in this originating summons. Therefore, the distinction made about the absence of challenge to the conversion when the respondent was still a child is of no consequence. Whether respondent is a person professing the religion of the Islam? [36] It is trite law that an appellate court will be slow in interfering with the findings of fact of the court of first instance without good reason. In the instant case, the learned High Court Judge gave careful consideration to the unrebutted affidavit evidence of the respondent and her mother. I shall repeat below the salient evidence that led the learned High Court Judge to conclude that the respondent is not a person professing the religion of Islam. [37] As I said earlier, the finding of the learned High Court Judge that the conversion of the five-year old minor was unlawful cannot be faulted. Therefore, the respondent was not a person professing the religion of Islam from the outset as found by the learned High Court Judge. The respondent’s mother deposed in her affidavit that the respondent continued to practise Hinduism while she lived with her and her Muslim husband. She did not profess the religion of Islam. The respondent’s mother said that she agreed for her daughter to be converted for a reason. After she separated from her Hindu husband, she decided to convert to Islam as she wanted to marry a Muslim. An officer from the Jabatan Agama Islam Negeri Selangor (JAIS) advised her that the respondent should also be converted to Islam to buttress her custody application in the pending divorce proceedings. The respondent in her affidavit said that she had been frequenting Hindu temples and celebrating Hindu festivals with her paternal relatives since young. She also averred that both her mother and her Muslim step-father permitted her to profess and practice her chosen faith. There is no affidavit from her step-father to contradict her averment. The learned High Court Judge accepted the affidavit evidence of both the respondent and her mother. In my view, this finding of fact by the learned High Court Judge does not warrant appellate interference. The respondent’s mother’s evidence was not contradicted by anyone and her evidence would constitute the best evidence in respect of matters pertaining to the respondent’s upbringing from the age of five until she left the family home to pursue tertiary evidence at the age of 17. Admissions of fact in the Syariah court [38] The learned High Court Judge also gave due consideration to the submission of counsel for the first appellant that some admissions were made by the respondent during the Syariah court proceedings. She admitted that during the time she lived with her mother and step-father, she did follow some Islamic practices such as praying, fasting and attending religious ceremonies. She is also able to utter the Affirmation of Faith. She was required to attend eight sessions of Syariah counselling at the Jabatan Agama Islam Wilayah Perseketuan during the Syariah court proceedings. However, the learned High Court Judge dismissed the contention of the counsel for the first appellant that the said admissions meant that the respondent is person professing the religion of Islam in the following passage of his judgment: [33] On the present facts, the plaintiff merely narrated her experiences, associations and exposures to the religion of Islam when she was young. She was being truthful during the Syariah proceedings. However, throughout the Syariah proceedings, she did not admit she professed the religion of Islam. The plaintiff did not retract her statements or admissions in the Syariah proceedings in this is Originating Summons. What the plaintiff was saying in this Originating Summons was that she did not profess the Islam religion ab initio. Therefore, those admission of facts in the Syariah Court proceedings could not stop her from exercising her constitutional right in the civil court. [39] I am wholly in agreement with the reasoning of the learned High Court Judge. It is crucial to note that the respondent never resiled from her basic contention in the Syariah court proceedings or in the originating summons that she was not a person professing the religion of Islam. The admissions of fact in the Syariah court proceedings relate to incidents of a childhood spent with a Muslim step-father and Muslim convert mother as found by the learned High Court Judge. It follows that she was exposed to Islamic practices at an early age. However, her narration of her childhood exposure to the religion of Islam cannot detract from the first hand affidavit evidence of her mother who said that the respondent did not practise the religion of Islam and was permitted to continue in her original faith. Locus standi and res judicata [40] Counsel for the first appellant argued in the High Court that the respondent lacked locus standi to seek relief through the instant originating summons because she had earlier filed a summons in the Syariah High Court in Kuala Lumpur for a declaration that she was no longer a Muslim ( Syariah case No. 043). It was argued that the originating summons was an afterthought and that the respondent was bound by the decisions of the Syariah High Court and Syariah Court of Appeal that dismissed her summons. For this reason, the matter is res judicata and the respondent was estopped from relitigating the matter in the civil court. [41] I see no merit in the above argument for the following reasons. I am in agreement with the decision of the learned High Court Judge who ruled that the respondent did not lack locus standi and that the doctrine of res judicata does not apply. The learned High Court Judge noted that prior to the decision of the Federal Court in the Rosliza Ibrahim case, the law was not clear in respect of the demarcation of jurisdiction between apostasy cases and cases where the applicant asserts that he or she was never a Muslim to start with. I find this observation of the learned High Court Judge to be entirely correct. In a host of cases (some of which were cited by counsel for the first respondent) that preceded the Rosliza Ibrahim case, the courts did not make any distinction between apostasy cases and cases where it is pleaded that either the conversion was unlawful or that the applicant was never a Muslim ab initio. The civil courts declined to adjudicate on the basis that the matters were within the jurisdiction of the Syariah court without scrutinizing the subject matter. Therefore, given the existing judicial attitude at that time and the predicament that the respondent was in, the learned High Court Judge described her action in seeking relief from the Syariah court as something done “out of necessity”. That is why she sought a declaration in the Syariah court that she is a person who “is no longer a Muslim”. But, as I pointed out earlier and as noted by High Court, the respondent consistently maintained her narrative that she never practised the religion of Islam. Thus, I would agree with the learned High Court Judge that in view of the Rosliza Ibrahim case which has opened a new judicial pathway for applicants in the same situation as the respondent, she should not now be prevented from pursuing her right to determine her religious status in the civil court which is a matter of constitutional and legal identity. In the premises, with respect, I find it difficult to agree with learned counsel for the first appellant’s characterization of the originating summons as a mere “afterthought” by the respondent. [42] I would also agree that the fact that the respondent sought relief from the Syariah court does not ipso facto deprive the civil court of jurisdiction. It is trite law that jurisdiction cannot be conferred by consent or agreement if there was no jurisdiction in the first place. Zainun Ali FCJ in the Indira Gandhi case said as follows: [74] It is not open for the Syariah Courts to enlarge their own jurisdiction by agreements: ‘it is a fundamental principle that no consent or acquiescence can confer on a court or tribunal with limited statutory jurisdiction any power to act beyond that jurisdiction’ (Federal Hotel Sdn Bhd v National Union of Hotel, Bar & Restaurant Workers [1983] 1 MLJ 175). [43] Therefore, it should not matter that the respondent, for lack any legal avenue, approached the Syariah court first. Jurisdiction cannot be vested in the Syariah court if the court has no jurisdiction in the subject matter to start with, especially in a matter that involves a fundamental liberty under the Federal Constitution. The learned High Court Judge found that the respondent was not a person professing the religion of Islam and that her conversion was unlawful. Therefore, the subject matter plainly falls within the jurisdiction of the civil court as it is an ab initio case. It follows that the decision of the Syariah court is not binding on her. To reiterate, it is trite law that neither consent nor estoppel nor waiver can confer jurisdiction upon a court that lacks jurisdiction and thus the doctrine of res judicata cannot apply to any decision made by such a court (see Chee Pok Choy v Scotch Leasing Sdn Bhd [2001] 4 MLJ 346). Doctrine of prospective ruling [44] In respect of the change in the law brought about by the Rosliza Ibrahim case, counsel for the first respondent argued that the doctrine of prospective ruling should apply. Therefore, the avenue that was opened by the Rosliza Ibrahim case cannot be availed by the respondent who had failed in her attempt to obtain relief in the Syariah court earlier. The said doctrine limits the general principle of retroactivity that applies to a court ruling. The purpose of the doctrine is to mitigate the potential harshness that may arise from a change in the law following a ground breaking decision of an apex court. This American judicial doctrine was discussed at length for the first time in the House of Lords in Re Spectrum Plus Ltd [2005] UKHL 41 which was cited by counsel for the first appellant. The doctrine is now part of the corpus of our law following its adoption in local cases. However, I fail to see its application here. Counsel for the respondent correctly pointed out that whilst Zainun Ali FCJ pronounced in the Indira Ghandi case that the doctrine will apply to that case, the Federal Court in the Rosliza Ibrahim case did not make any similar pronouncement. In the premises, the principles of law in respect of the jurisdiction of the court in cases such this that was enunciated in the Rosliza Ibrahim case must be taken as declaratory of the law without being unduly constricted by the doctrine of prospective ruling. Conclusion [45] For the foregoing reasons, I am of the view that the learned High Court Judge had correctly granted the relief sought in the originating summons. I shall therefore affirm the decision of the High Court and dismiss the appeals. No order as to costs. SGD (RAVINTHRAN PARAMAGURU) Judge Court of Appeal Malaysia Dated: 13th January 2023 Parties Appearing: For Civil Appeal No. B-01(NCVC)(A)-40-01/2022 For The Appellant: Majdah Muda Haniff Khatri (Messrs Muda) For The Respondent: Datuk Malik Imtiaz Sarwar Surendra Ananth (Messrs Surendra Ananth) For Civil Appeal No. B-01(NCVC)(A)-57-01/2022 For The Appellant: Dato’ Salim bin Soib Husna binti Abdul Halim (Pejabat Penasihat Undang-Undang Negeri Selangor) For The Respondent: Datuk Malik Imtiaz Sarwar Surendra Ananth (Messrs Surendra Ananth)