(ii) does the Industrial Court have jurisdiction to amend the date of dismissal of the workman so that the workman is deemed to be in employment until the date of the award and thereby become entitled to back wages? [21] It is in relation to the 2nd question of law that the Supreme Court held that the Industrial Court (and the High Court which affirmed the decision of the Industrial Court) has no jurisdiction to amend the date of dismissal (of the employee by the employer on 23.2.1984) to the last date of the hearing in the Industrial Court, ie 28.4.1986. The actual date of dismissal cannot be amended to any other date in order to grant the employee back wages. [22] Therefore, in the Dreamland Corporation case, as to what is the date referred to in the Minister‟s reference is not even in the case itself. There is no issue that the date of dismissal in the Minister‟s reference is different from the actual date of dismissal found by the Industrial Court in Dreamland Corporation case. [23] The issue on the date is in the 2nd question of law referred to the High Court, that is whether the Industrial Court can change the actual date of dismissal to another date, and in that case, to the last date of hearing before the Industrial Court. The Supreme Court held that both the Industrial Court and the High Court have no jurisdiction to change the date of dismissal, and thereafter deemed that the employee is still in the employment during the extended period. 12 [24] I am of the considered opinion that the relevant case to consider is the decision of Justice Aziah Ali in Shafie bin Abd Rahman v Petroliam Nasional Berhad [2010] MLJU 1290. In this case, Justice Aziah Ali held as follows: “[8] It is the Ministerial reference and not the Statement of Case that determines the Industrial Court‟s jurisdiction. In the present case, what is the dispute referred by the Minister to the Industrial Court? The subject matter of reference as reflected in the Award is the dismissal of the Applicant by the 1st Respondent. That is the dispute referred to the Industrial Court for adjudication and it is clearly within the scope of the Industrial Court’s jurisdiction. The date of dismissal is a matter for determination by the Industrial Court. [9] The Applicant herein claims constructive dismissal. Hence the issues before the Industrial Court are amongst others – a. whether there was constructive dismissal; and b. if there was constructive dismissal, whether the date of dismissal is 29.9.2005 as stated in the Ministerial reference or 30.9.2005 as stated in the Statement of Case.” 13 [25] I am therefore of the considered opinion that the Minister‟s reference to the Industrial Court is on the issue of dismissal, whether the Claimants were dismissed by the Company with just cause and excuse. That is the substance of the Minister‟s reference. [26] On the issue of the date of the dismissal, the same does not go to the issue jurisdiction as it is a finding of fact by the Industrial Court as to whether the dismissal took place on 4.1.2007 or 8.1.2007. The Claimants have asserted their position that they have been dismissed on 4.1.2007. They then made their complaint to the Minister, and the Minister referred their complaints to the Industrial Court for adjudication. It is not for the Minister to ascertain the „correct‟ or „actual‟ date of dismissal in order to state the „correct date’ in his ministerial reference. In Hong Leong Equipment Sdn Bhd v Liew Fook Chuan & Other Appeals [1997] 1 CLJ 665, the Court of Appeal held as follows: “To summarise, when a question arises as to whether the Minister has correctly exercised his discretion under s. 20(3) of the Act, it is the solemn duty of a Court to undertake a meticulous examination of the facts that were made available to the Minister. If the examination reveals that the representations made under s. 20(1) are neither perverse, frivolous nor vexatious, a decision not to refer is liable to be quashed by an order of certiorari. ..... 14 It follows from these decisions that the Minister must bear in the forefront of his mind that the Act has established a special tribunal to adjudicate upon a dispute arising from representations made under s. 20(1) of the Act and that it is therefore no part of his function to arrive at a concluded view upon the merits of the dispute. His role is limited to ascertaining whether, on the facts and materials placed before him, the representations raised serious questions of fact or of law calling for adjudication. And, as I have already said, his determination upon the question one way or the other is not conclusive.” (emphasis added) [27] Thereafter, it is for the Industrial Court to ascertain the date of the dismissal after hearing all the evidence. But once the Industrial Court finds that the Claimants have been dismissed on a different date, other than the date in the Minister‟s reference, it does not mean that the Industrial Court no longer has the jurisdiction, because the Industrial Court is already seized with the jurisdiction from the Minister‟s reference itself. The reference is on the Claimant complaints, that is on their dismissal. It is clearly irrational if the Industrial Court suddenly finds itself lacking in jurisdiction after combing through the evidence and makes a finding that the date of dismissal is different from the date in the ministerial reference. 15 [28] In Wong Yuen Hock v. Syarikat Hong Leong Assurance Sdn Bhd & Another Appeal [1995] 3 CLJ 344, the Federal Court held as follows: “[2] Once a case of wrongful dismissal has been properly referred by the Minister under s. 20(3), the Industrial Court is seized with jurisdiction and is obliged under the Act to determine the dispute on merits, unless the reference itself is void an initio. The Industrial Court has no jurisdiction to change the scope of such reference…” (emphasis added) [29] Therefore, I am of the considered opinion that the Industrial Court has not made an error in law when it decided that the date of dismissal is different from that in the Minister‟s reference. [30] Added to that, it is not in dispute that the Claimants were involved in a strike, when they refused to report for work despite attempts made by the Company to get them back to work. Section 43 of the Industrial Relations Act 1967 provides the restrictions on strike, which inter alia, requires notice to be given to the Company/employer. In this case, the Claimants did not give any evidence on the notice as required under section 43. Therefore, it cannot be said that their dismissal was unreasonable, as they were involved in an illegal strike. 16 [31] In the premise, I find that there is no merit in the application and the same is dismissed with cost. (AZIZAH BINTI HAJI NAWAWI) JUDGE HIGH COURT MALAYA (Appellate and Special Powers Division 2) KUALA LUMPUR Dated: 2nd January 2019 For the Applicant : Ramdhari JBS Messrs P.Kuppusamy & Co Selangor Darul Ehsan For the 1st Respondent : Rejinder Singh Messrs Rejinder Singh & Associates Kuala Lumpur Cases referred: