Interlocutory judgments and orders. An order which does not deal with the final rights of the parties, but either (1) is made before judgment, and gives no final decision on the matters in dispute, but is merely on a matter of procedure, or (2) is made after judgment, and merely directs how the declarations of right already given in the final judgment are to be worked out, is termed ‘interlocutory’. An interlocutory order, even though not conclusive of the main dispute, may be conclusive as to the subordinate matter with which it deals. Shortly stated, what the amendment means is that a judgment or order which does not deal with the final rights of the parties, but is made pendente lite, and gives no final decision on the matters in dispute, is not a “decision” within the meaning of that word in the current version of s. Courts of Judicature Act, and therefore is not appealable.” It makes no difference that such a judgment or order is final, that is to say conclusive, as to the subordinate matter with which it deals.” (emphasis added) [12] In the same case, NH Chan JCA further said this: “The real distinction is between, (for want of a better word) what is called, final judgments and orders and interlocutory judgments and orders. In general, a judgment or order which determines the principal matter in question is termed “final”: see 26 Halsbury’s Laws of England, supra, para. 505, p. 238. The use of the term “final” is tautological as all judgments and orders are final. The term (“final”) is used to distinguish between judgments and orders and “interlocutory” judgments and orders. The difference is that judgments and orders which are not termed “interlocutory” judgments and orders are appealable under the new meaning of the word “decision” as defined in s. 3 by the 1998 amendment. In other words, judgments and orders which determine the principal matter in question are termed “final” judgments and orders, and they are appealable. But, those judgments and orders which give no final decision on the matters in dispute (which are termed “interlocutory” judgments and orders) are now no longer appealable.” (emphasis added) [13] The principle of law on this issue is no different in the United Kingdom. The Court of Appeal Regina V Collins [1970] 1QB 710 heal that: “the court had no jurisdiction to bear the application that the Court of Appeal (Criminal Division), having some powers as its predecessor, the Court of Criminal Appeal, which was created by the Criminal Appeal Act, 1907, had no statutory jurisdiction to hear an interlocutory appeal; that since the court was created by statue, it had no powers beyond those conferred on it by Parliament. Accordingly, there was no inherent jurisdiction to hear interlocutory appeals. Reg. v. Grantham [1969] 2 Q.B. 574; [1969] 2 W.L.R 1083; [1969] 2 ALL E.R. 545, Ct. - M.A.C., and Reg. V. Jefferies [1969] 1 Q.B. 120; [1968] 3 W.L.R. 830; 3 ALL E.R. 238, C.A. applied.” (emphasis added) When do the rights of parties are finally disposed of? [14] The pertinent question here is when the rights of parties are finally disposed of. This has been answered in many decided cases and has become a settled law. The rights of parties are finally disposed of at the end of a trial. In Dato’ Seri Anwar Ibrahim’s case (supra) the issue was explained in the following words: “A decision made pending the trial of the charges against the appellant is not, in our considered opinion, a decision (ruling) that had the effect of finally determining the rights of the appellant. It is the outcome of the trial that would have the effect of finally disposing of his rights.” (emphasis added) [15] The same stand was taken by this Court in the case of Saad bin Abas & Anor v PP [1998] 4 CLJ 575 where Lamin Mohd Yunus PCA (as he then was) states: “Whether it is a judgment, decision, or order pronounced by a court, there must be an element of finality before there can be an appeal. Now we may recall s. 50(2) of the Courts of Judicature Act 1964, it employs the word “decision” which is defined in s. 3. Early this year by Amendment Act A 1031 of 1998, that definition was amended to read: “decision” means judgment, sentence, or order, but does not include any ruling made in the course of a trial or hearing of any cause or matter which does not finally dispose of the rights of the parties. So, for s. 50(2), this court has first to ascertain whether the “decision” of the High Court in ordering the applicants before us to enter on their defence was a ruling that had the effect of finally disposing of their rights. Certainly not and it would only happen after a decision had been made at the close of the defence.” (emphasis added) [16] Further, this Court in Public Prosecutor v Mohamed Shahabuddin Mohamed Ali & Ors [2018] 8 CLJ 535 explained the issue in the following words: “[25] Our courts have applied a “salutary general rule” in criminal and civil proceedings for many years that appeals are not entertained piecemeal. Decision of the High Courts has generally been held to be appealable only if they have three attributes. They must be final in effect, definitive of the rights of the parties, effectively dispose of a substantial part of the relief claimed in the main proceedings and it does not leave anything to be done in the trial with respect of the merits of the case. In other words, the rule, in general, permits an appeal to be taken only from a final decision which disposes of all the issues presented in the trial. Quite obviously, all the issues in the case at bench were not disposed of if the respondents have yet to testify in their defence.” (emphasis added) Whether the ruling or decision by the High Court Judge in refusing bail to the appellants is appealable. [17] In the present case, the appellants sought from the High Court that they are given bail pending disposal of the trial for charges against them of being members of a criminal group under section 130V of the Penal Code. In this regard, the decision by the High Court in dismissing the application for bail on 30.12.2021, certainly does not finally dispose of the appellants’ rights which could only happen at the end of the trial when the Court decides whether the appellants are guilty or otherwise. Here the trial has not yet started. The hearing date for the trial is fixed on 6 to 9 February 2023 and 20 to 23 February 2023. Therefore, the decision in refusing bail is not within the meaning of “decision” under section 3 of the CJA, and as such not appealable under section 50 of the same Act. [18] The question of whether the decision on bail is appealable had also been decided by this Court in Dato’ Seri Anwar Ibrahim’s case (supra) where Lamin Mohd Yunus PCA said this: “. The issue before us is whether the matter of bail is appealable to the Court of Appeal. The Courts of Judicature Act 1964 spells out the areas of jurisdiction for the Court of Appeal both criminal and civil. Its criminal jurisdiction is found within the terms of s. 50 of the Act. Section 50 employs the word “decision” with its definition provided for in s. 3. As it has been suggested the definition of the word “decision” would exclude any ruling on any matter extraneous to the issues to be determined in the main case. This, as I understand it, would mean any decision of the High Court on any matter would be appealable to the Court of Appeal. That cannot be the intention of Parliament. The matter of bail may very well be extraneous to the issues to be determined in the main case. But that is not the issue. What are appealable, as is intended by the current definition of the word “decision” are those decisions of the High Court that have the effect of finally disposing of the rights of parties. To get bail is not as of right. Bail under s. 388 of the Criminal Procedure Code is granted at the complete discretion of the court. The very nature of bail possesses no element of finality. It is something of a respite. It is a mechanism for temporary relief from confinement. Once given it is capable of being withdrawn. Upon refusal, it can be reapplied. With the greatest of respect, I am unable to accept the interpretation as submitted by the learned counsel for the appellant. I am therefore quite clear in my own mind that an appeal on the matter of bail is incompetent to be laid before this court and therefore is rightly dismissed. With that, the proceedings of this morning should end.” (emphasis added) [19] In the same case, NH Chan JCA opined as follows: “A decision made pending the trial of the charges against the appellant is not, in our considered opinion, a decision (ruling) that had the effect of finally determining the rights of the appellant. It is only the outcome of the trial that would have the effect of finally disposing of his rights. A decision on bail (by the court of first instance), whether the grant or refusal of it, will not finally determine the rights of the appellant in the outcome of his trial. That being so, the order of the High Court in refusing to admit the appellant to bail is not appealable to the Court Appeal.” (emphasis added) [20] Moreover, there is no finality in an application for bail as a fresh application can be made if new development arises. As such, the decision on bail, as in the present case, does not finally dispose of the rights of the appellants. This issue was addressed in Dato’ Seri Anwar Ibrahim’s case (supra) in the following paragraphs: “In Babu Singh v. State, AIR [1978] SC 527, the Supreme Court of India has held that even if a previous application for bail was rejected by the Supreme Court, a fresh application for bail can be moved to the same court if new circumstances or developments arise for the applicants to apply for bail again. This is what the Indian Supreme Court (V.R. Krishna Iyer and D.A. Desai, JJ) said, at 528, by V.R. Krishna Iyer J: