S: Mengapa kamu pulang ke Cunex semula selepas itu? J: Di Cunex juga masih ada anak-anak pokok yang tumbuh semula selepas dimusnahkan gajah. [33] The cross-examination of the Plaintiffs’ elderlies by counsel for D1 – D4 touched upon the length of time they had lived in Kg. Tasek Asal Cunex i.e. 20 years and their forefathers before them lived in nearby Kg. Keled and also Kg. Peres. No villagers live in Kg. Keled and Kg. Peres now (moved away). The distance from Kg. Sarok and Kg. Cunex was also not far and it wo/uld not take a day to travel between the two places. These villages were claimed to be within their territory of roaming areas. The witnesses also told the Court the importance of the tanah adat in their lives as otherwise they would not be able to roam for forest products, herbs and “medicine”, hunt and obtain items for their prayers (bersewang). It is a well-known fact that the “Orang Asli identity is dependent on two very fundamental aspects – attachment to a particular territory and a religio-cultural spirituality linked very much to that geographical space.” (Refer to P10 at page 33). The Temiars (not only from Kg. Cunex) attach great importance to the “batu tanda” i.e. the Rock-Where-the Sun-Descended (near the Cunex Waterfall), and the Cunex Waterfall itself, which is located behind Kg. Cunex, mark the early history of Cunex as it is a sacred site for their people. They also rely on the waterfall and Sg. Denlak as their water source. The other landmarks of great importance to the Temiars of Hulu Denlak is the “Oldest Durian Tree” planted by their ancestors (marked as their customary territory identity), the “Keramat Buaya” which is the location where crocodile bones are discovered after a tiger attacked it, the “batu asah” they use to sharpen their machetes before they proceed into the forest, and a more recent landmark to support their claim is “Dr. Bolton’s Landing Zone” and a medical post in Pos Keled. The landing zone is a helicopter landing point used to bring in medical supplies and it was established by the government. [34] In D5’s cross-examination of SP1, the witness replied that he had been living in Kg. Tasek Asal Cunex since before 2018. He admitted that despite the logging activities, SP1 still lived in his village, tended to his crops and he could still perform the prayers as usual at the place of worship of their god Aluej. In regard to adat resam pertaining to marriage and death were also still carried out by the villagers. SP1 told the Court that the oldest Pokok Durian in their roaming area was still there (refer to page 32 of CBOD1). The significance of this tree to the Plaintiffs as it was the oldest durian tree there and had been revered since his ancestors’ time. He admitted that his livelihood had not been affected by the logging activities. However, SP1 disagreed that the logging areas were 8km away from his village. He also disagreed that the blockade was 2km from the logging areas. The witness said he did not know that D5 had been granted a permit to carry out logging activities or that other villagers nearby such as from Kg. Sarok, Kg. Untung and Kg. Urat did not object to the logging activities by D5. SP1 admitted that he knew SD1 was the Tok Batin of Kg. Sarok and that Kg. Cunex did not have a Tok Batin. [35] In re-examination, SP1 clarified his answer that the logging activities did not affect his livelihood. SP1 explained that “Kampung Tasek Asal Cunex kita setuju ini pembalak sampai dekat atas itu memang kita tak setujulah pasal kita sayang itu jalan tempat air, air kita. Itulah, itu saja.”. Therefore, the translator stated “kalau tak diganggu, dia setuju.”. The Court asked SP1 how far was the logging area from his village and he replied “Macam ada sebatulah dekat daripada rumah kita.”. It would take him about 1 hour to walk to the logging area. In comparison, he would walk about 5 minutes to the area where he planted his crops. The questions in cross-examination of SP2 and SP3 were similar and the answers were also similar. Thus, I will not repeat the same. [36] SP2 in cross-examination by D5’s counsel agreed that D5’s representatives did not use force on the villagers (Plaintiffs). SP2 also stated that he disagreed to the suggestion that D5 had come to the village to negotiate with them after the blockade was first built by the Plaintiffs. SP3 in the cross-examination by D5’s counsel disagreed that the suit was taken by the Plaintiffs upon the advice of COAC. However, he agreed that the Plaintiffs’ objection against the logging activities was made upon the advice of COAC. The Center had also set up a school for the Kg. Cunex villagers after they moved from RPS Dala where the children learnt Bahasa Malaysia, English and Bahasa Temiar, unlike the government school which did not teach English and Bahasa Temiar (the witness said “bahasa Orang Asli tidak diktiraf oleh Kerajaan”). [37] SP3 was also the person who prepared the letter dated 11.10.2018 (P1) to inform JAKOA that the Plaintiffs had moved out of RPS Dala to Kg. Tasek Asal Cunex, Hulu Air Denlak. He prepared the letter more than a year after the move and explained that the delay was due to the fact that they were located far away from Gerik. He was taught to use a GPS device supplied by COAC. The device was used by SP3 to input the tracking points on the indicative map of the alleged tanah adat that was prepared by COAC. SP3 showed the tracking points that could be seen in the maps that were exhibited in the CBOD2 at pages 24 and 25 marked as P2A and P2B. However, SP3 only knew how to use the device whereas maintenance would be done by COAC. The photographs exhibited by the Plaintiffs in pages 29 – 35 of CBOD1 were taken by SP3 using his handphone but they were printed by COAC. In re-examination, he clarified that the blockades were not put up by COAC and the Plaintiffs’ themselves were responsible for them since they were unhappy seeing their customary land had been affected by the logging activities. [38] As stated earlier, the Plaintiffs’ testimony were supported by their experts’ evidence in the form of SP5 (Dr.Collin Nicholas) who was the COAC’s Co-ordinator and from the expert opinion of SP6, an academician with University Malaya. The Court heard that SP5 had been called as an expert in many tanah adat claims by the Orang Asli, in Sagong Bin Tasi (supra), Kong Chee Wai (supra), Eddy bin Salim (supra), amongst others, and his opinion had largely been accepted by the superior courts. In 2018, COAC worked with Google Earth Voyager to produce a video presentation (P11) which had focused on the Kg. Cunex story. The short documentary highlighted the history, situation and culture of the Plaintiffs’ community and tanah adat. The documentary also complemented SP5’s book (P10) which had a part about the Plaintiffs’ struggle to obtain recognition in regard to the breakaway Kg. Cunex and their reasons for returning to their homeland after leaving the OAR. After 30 years of living in the OAR, despite promises of better access to school and other amenities, some of their communities realized that they were in a worse off situation than before the resettlment. They claimed that there was no autonomy in the “structured government-managed schemes”. The return to Kg. Cunex was “to recover and revive their traditional institutions and traditional way of life” (page 49 of P10), to protect their sacred sites as well as to exercise their rights under UNDRIP. [39] SP6 testified about the history of the Temiar people in his Expert’s Affidavit (P13 which contained his CV and Report, particularly in pages 1- 7). He had based the Report on documentary research based on previous writings by researchers and commentators on the Temiar Orang Asli, published materials, verbal accounts by the Temiar Orang Asli of Cunex and information provided by SP5. SP6 had also conducted a field visit and interviewed the Temiar Orang Asli of Cunex (page 1 of the Report in P13). SP6 had also drawn on his own experience and expertise having conducted research on Orang Asli and development over the last 2 decades. “From information collected during fieldwork where I collected a rough sketch of the kinship/genealogy charts of some of the village elders of the Temiar in Cunex, we were able to trace 5 generations having continuously lived in the area. With the survey map produced by Noone (1936) and broader documentation from as early as the late 19th century, we can assume the Temiar have occupied the Perak-Kelantan watershed for a period of at least 150 years.”. [See paragraph 59 at page 9 of P13] [40] The Court learnt from the literatures referred to in the Report, traditionally the Temiars are distinguished from their Negrito neighbours in that they are not nomadic. They do hunt and collect from the jungle but also are described as shifting cultivators, (Williams-Hunt 1952, Carey 1976) [refer to paragraphs 21,22,23 and 24 at Page 3 of P13]. SP6 observed and concluded in paragraph 40 at page 7 of the Report that: “The current Temiar people living along the Denlak or Dala river are possibly descendants of the Temiar people that Noone (1936) encountered in his expeditions during the mid-20th century. As Pam Bin Yek explains, Temiar customary landscapes are bounded territories agreed upon by their ancestors, the Temiar settlements along the upper reaches of the Denlak (Dala) river in Noone’s survey map were most likely the ancestors of today’s Temiar in Cunex and Paloh.” [41] “Noone” refers to HD Noone, a professional anthropologist who was the first British Adviser on Aborigines as well as Director of the Ethnographic Museum in Taiping in the 1930’s where the author had published the Report on the Settlements and Welfare of the Ple-Temiar Senoi of the Perak-Kelantan Watershed (1936, Perak State Museum). Noone’s map is exhibited in P13A. [42] On the other hand, none of the Defendants’ witnesses were able to deny that the Plaintiffs have any connection to the Land. They were mainly harping on the fact that customary land or tanah adat was not provided for in the APA or that no tanah adat had ever been granted to any Orang Asli in the State. Generally, the government’s witnesses (SD1 – SD4) testified that there were no crops planted on the Land and Kg Cunex was far from the logging sites, and therefore the Plaintiffs’ claims could not be upheld. Moreover, there were no application from the Plaintiffs to gazette the Land either in respect of Kg. Keled, Kg. Peres or Kg. Cunex. SD1 states that the current policy of the department is that if there is any application to gazette any breakaway village such as Kg. Cunex, JAKOA Perak and Kedah, it would not process the application (for approval of the relevant authorities until the PBN) because it has to focus on gazetting all 258 recognized Orang Asli Villages wherein about half of that number has not been gazette yet. In the case of the breakaway Kg. Cunex, it is not recognized by JAKOA because the Plaintiffs have been resettled at Kg. Sarok in RPS Dala where the government has provided them with many facilities therein. [43] The learned Senior Federal Counsel suggested to SP6 that since the interviews conducted by SP6 were only with the Plaintiffs (which total approximately 128 persons), their views did not represent the views of the whole Temiar people. SP6 replied in the affirmative. Nevertheless, when it was suggested that the outcome of his study was inconclusive, SP6 disagreed because although he spent a night in the village interviewing members of the Temiar in Cunex but he also referred to the literature that existed on Temiar beliefs, religion and culture. SP6 had also referred to the 1936 Noone’s map to get an idea of what were written about Temiars from an earlier period. Therefore, the mapping of settlements on Noone’s map confirmed what SP4, SP7 and a few other villagers had told him about the Temiars’ beliefs, religion and culture and their way of life in the Hulu Denlak (Dala). He explained that in Noone’s map, there were marking of settlements that he encountered in the upper, i.e. in the Hulu of the Dala River. Outside of that, Noone also marked the boundaries for the other Orang Asli groups nearby like the Lanoh and the Jahai. It is noted that Noone’s Map (P13A) is a Government Copyright Reserved Map (British Government in Malaya). [44] The Plaintiffs told SP6 that there were villages at the interior of the Dala River. This was affirmed in Noone’s older maps, for instance, when the Plaintiffs drew the map of their landscape and when SP6 showed them later the map of Noone the Plaintiffs were able to confirm the river and talk about how one river entered another river and where that village was. The other things were like movements of the villagers where they were moved to Kg. Agam (during the Emergency) and then Kg. Sarok (building of Kenering Dam) which later became the RPS Dala. These events could be confirmed through records. SP6 explained that for instance regarding the movement of the Temiars during the Emergency, SP6 looked at other (not necessarily on Cunex) literatures dealing with Orang Asli, during the Emergency, such as a book by Leary in 1995, Richard Noone in 1972, and also Williams-Hunt in 1952 to understand a bit more on the movements. Despite being in RPS Dala (before 2016), they would always return to Cunex to fish in the rivers, collect jungle produce such as rattan and to enjoy seasonal fruits from trees which they and their earlier ancestors had planted (paragraph 29 of P13). [45] From the evidence of SP6, the Court agreed with the findings of the expert where he stated in paragraph 36 at page 6 of the Report that the Temiars may move from one area to an adjacent area to open new agricultural sites, however their movement is limited within their designated customary territory. They have several gardens or fields and settlements in the landscape which included Keled, Peres and Cunex. Their settlements are often along smaller streams and they would not open settlements at “Luang” i.e. a ridge where the source of the rivers meet as the risk is that wild animals would go there to drink. They would also not open settlements on hilltops and near Kerung trees as these attract thunder and lightning. Based on their oral interviews, SP6 concluded that the Temiars have been living and roaming their “designated” customary territories for at least 150 years as they are very knowledgeable about the jungle, flora and fauna in the area. Their customary territories extend beyond the area where their villages and agriculture plots are located and include forest, riverine and agroforest areas (paragraph 39 at page 7 of the Report). [46] Since the Defendants were unable to dispel these evidence adduced by the Plaintiffs, therefore, the Court was satisfied that the Plaintiffs had proved on a balance of probabilities that they have unique connection to the Land that were marked with their sacred places, landmarks and trees. I agreed with Plaintiffs’ submissions that the historical occupation of the Plaintiff over the Land was evidently proved by his aboriginal community and expert report. The Plaintiffs’ oral information pertaining to their forefathers’ existence on the Land which were passed over the next generation, and in my view had been well-documented by SP5 in P10 and P11, were admissible evidence. Oral histories pertaining to the Aboriginals are admissible evidence as acknowledged by the High Court (affirmed by Court of Appeal) in Sagong Bin Tasi (supra). [47] In regard to “continuous occupation”, it was submitted by the Defendants that the Plaintiffs have not been able to prove that there was no break in their continuous occupation of the Land. Counsel for D5 submitted that the Plaintiffs were claiming the whole area as per “Lampiran B” in the Statement of Claim (based on the indicative map) as their native customary lands. Nevertheless, counsel submitted there was no oral or documentary evidence put forth by the Plaintiffs to prove their continuous occupation of whole of the area in Lampiran B. There was no evidence whatsoever adduced that they built a settlement in the logging area or that they had acquired or created native customary rights over the logging area. There was also no evidence by the Plaintiffs that their village and settlement in Kampung Tasek Asal Cunex had been disturbed or demolished and or that they were ordered and forced to vacate the said Kampung Tasek Asal Cunex by the Defendants. [48] However, I found that the evidence of the Plaintiffs, for example as stated by SP2, have on a balance of probabilities proved that they had been in continuous occupation of the Land. And because they agreed that they had never been forced to vacate Kg. Tasek Asal Cunex or their dwellings demolished by agents of D5, this proved that the Plaintiffs had sufficient measure of control against other parties from interfering with their Land. When they had to leave their settlement starting from the Communist insurgency in 1977, the Plaintiffs had been able to provide explanation on why they had to leave (for various reasons as I have stated earlier). I refer to SP2’s evidence: